Ayn Rand: The Playboy Interview
conducted by Alvin Toffler
a candid conversation with the
fountainhead of "objectivism"
What about other public needs? Do you consider the post office, for
example, a legitimate function of government?
Now, let's get this straight. My postion is fully consistent.
Not only the post office, but streets, roads, and above all, schools should
all be privately owned and privately run. I advocate the separation
of state and economics. The government should be concerned only with
those issues which involve the use of force. This means: the police,
the armed services, and the law courts to settle disputes among men. Nothing
else. Everything else should be privately run and would be much better
Would you create any new government departments or agencies?
No, and I truly cannot discuss things that way. I am not a government planner
nor do I spend my time inventing Utopias. I'm talking about principles
whose practical applications are clear. If I have said that I am
opposed to the initiation of force, what else has to be discussed?
What about force in foreign policy? You have said that any free nation
had the right to invade Nazi Germany during World War II . . .
. . . And that any free nation today has the moral right -- though not
the duty -- to invade Soviet Russia, Cuba, or any other "slave pen." Correct?
Correct. A dictatorship -- a country that violates the rights of its own
citizens -- is an outlaw and can claim no rights.
Would you actively advocate that the United States invade Cuba or the Soviet
Not at present. I don't think it's necessary. I would advocate that which
the Soviet Union fears above all else: economic boycott. I would advocate
a blockade of Cuba and an economic boycott of Soviet Russia; and you would
see both those regimes collapse without the loss of a single American life.
Would you favor U.S. withdrawal from the United Nations?
Yes. I do not sanction the grotesque pretense of an organization allegedly
devoted to world peace and human rights, which includes Soviet Russia,
the worst aggressor and bloodiest butcher in history, as one of its members.
The notion of protecting rights, with Soviet Russia among the protectors,
is an insult to the concept of rights and to the intelligence of any man
who is asked to endorse or sanction such an organization.
the "whole" interview as published in Playboy HERE.
copies of the interview by itself HERE.
the "Lost" Parts of the interview HERE.
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also see: "The Cult of Moral Grayness" HERE,
"what you now need is not to return to morality, but to discover
Check out: "9-11: the Ultimate Philosophy Lesson" HERE.